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On our second episode of the Engaged Liberation podcast, I am honored to chat with the brilliant Awatif, a graphic designer based in Paris, France.

Awatif and I chat Design Thinking (Empathy is step 1), internal vs external revolutions, how she called me out for not speaking up about genocide, and whether sharing on social media actually has any benefit.

Check out more of her incredible work here - https://www.awatif.fr/

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